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Article: 14150 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: MS-DOS Kermit
Message-ID: <ApvEWzTJJazl@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 2 Mar 03 18:48:24 MDT
References: <20030301.1833.31585snz@aral.vorkosigan.co.uk> <b3u44e$uf4$1@blue.rahul.net>
Organization: Utah State University
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In article <b3u44e$uf4$1@blue.rahul.net>, Doug Kaufman <dkaufman@rahul.net> writes:
> fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes:
>
>>In article <20030301.1833.31585snz@aral.vorkosigan.co.uk>,
>>Michael Bernardi <mike@vorkosigan.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
>>> Given that many servers no longer support telnet and instead use ssh,
>>> is there any chance that the MS-DOS version of kermit might be updated
>>> to use this protocol as well?
>>>
>>MS-DOS Kermit probably will not be updated again, at all.
>>...
>>The source is out in the open. If you want to do the work yourself,
>>be my guest! That's how it used to work in the old days.
>
> I would certainly be interested in seeing the source. The latest
> source I have found is on netlab and is dated 1997. The beta10
> of MSKERMIT is from April 2001. Is the source of the latest beta
> available publically?
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The latest source is for MSK v3.16 beta, found on netlab1.usu.edu.
If using anonymous ftp then cd pub/kermit. If using a web browser then
please select Complete File Archives, then Kermit. That will be the 1977
material. A slightly changed later edition is avaiable upon request; it
is flying on the Space Station. Nothing significant has changed though
so reference the 1977 material.
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> OpenSSL has been ported to DOS and the latest 0.9.7a compiles under
> DJGPP out of the box, but is dependent on the WATT-32 networking
> library. SSHDOS is also available for DOS (does not use OpenSSL)
> (sshdos.sourceforge.net). Perhaps one of these can be used as a
> starting point for anyone who wants to add a secure layer to MSKERMIT.
> I am not sure how much licensing conflicts will add to technical
> problems involved.
> Doug
> --
> Doug Kaufman
> Internet: dkaufman@rahul.net
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I just visited Sourceforge and snagged the sshdos source archive
for a look-see. It's not the kind of thing which fits well with MSK. MSK
has no external libraries, no vendor libraries, no wattcp, and so on, and
it is for 16-bit real mode only. That also means all supporting material
is within MSK in open source form. Adding SSH would be quite a bit of work.
Licensing is definitely an issue. No GPL, no vendor licenses.
Joe D.